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Avoiding bean counters

MacroFab Engineering Podcast #290

Avoiding Bean Counters

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August 18, 2021, Episode #290

Leaded verse non-leaded surface mount packages? What should engineers choose when designing a product? We go deep into a PCBA cost comparison!

BGA vs. QFP  – PCBA cost comparison

  • Inspired by Tim Jager on the slack channel
  • 48 pin QFP vs 56 pin BGA
  • Escaping the package
    • Layer count
    • Increase in PCB tolerances
    • Blind and buried vias required?
  • Inspection costs
    • Leaded packages like QFPs can easily be optically inspected
    • BGAs typically require X-ray
  • Tooling
    • BGAs typically require small paste apertures and might require more expensive coatings and stencils
    • Depending on lead spacing you may not need a stencil at your CM for a QFP

Using the MF platform to predict pricing

  • Napkin math your PCB assembly cost the “easy” way
  • Come up with a rough Bill of Materials
  • Draw up a quick board outline that might be the size you require
    • Enclosures dictate PCB sizes more often then not
  • Upload to the platform
    • Can change the bill of materials on the fly to make pricing considerations at prototype to high volume 
  • Ways to control pricing on your PCB Assembly

About the Hosts

Parker dillmann
  Parker Dillmann

Parker is an Electrical Engineer with backgrounds in Embedded System Design and Digital Signal Processing. He got his start in 2005 by hacking Nintendo consoles into portable gaming units. The following year he designed and produced an Atari 2600 video mod to allow the Atari to display a crisp, RF fuzz free picture on newer TVs. Over a thousand Atari video mods where produced by Parker from 2006 to 2011 and the mod is still made by other enthusiasts in the Atari community.

In 2006, Parker enrolled at The University of Texas at Austin as a Petroleum Engineer. After realizing electronics was his passion he switched majors in 2007 to Electrical and Computer Engineering. Following his previous background in making the Atari 2600 video mod, Parker decided to take more board layout classes and circuit design classes. Other areas of study include robotics, microcontroller theory and design, FPGA development with VHDL and Verilog, and image and signal processing with DSPs. In 2010, Parker won a Ti sponsored Launchpad programming and design contest that was held by the IEEE CS chapter at the University. Parker graduated with a BS in Electrical and Computer Engineering in the Spring of 2012.

In the Summer of 2012, Parker was hired on as an Electrical Engineer at Dynamic Perception to design and prototype new electronic products. Here, Parker learned about full product development cycles and honed his board layout skills. Seeing the difficulties in managing operations and FCC/CE compliance testing, Parker thought there had to be a better way for small electronic companies to get their product out in customer's hands.

Parker also runs the blog,, where he posts his personal projects, technical guides, and appnotes about board layout design and components.

Stephen Kraig
  Stephen Kraig

Stephen Kraig began his electronics career by building musical oriented circuits in 2003. Stephen is an avid guitar player and, in his down time, manufactures audio electronics including guitar amplifiers, pedals, and pro audio gear. Stephen graduated with a BS in Electrical Engineering from Texas A&M University.

Special thanks to whixr over at Tymkrs for the intro and outro!